tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24135583.post9170853394480717423..comments2023-05-30T05:54:48.988-04:00Comments on kingston progressive: SMILE; YOURE UNDER ARRESTMike Madsenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14527557594630435730noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24135583.post-69469625718398275002009-01-01T18:47:00.000-05:002009-01-01T18:47:00.000-05:00anon... (from N)I did not mention the word forgive...anon... (from N)<BR/><BR/>I did not mention the word forgive, now did I?<BR/><BR/>My idea is that folks with non-violent addiction-related offenses be mandated into treatment for their addictions...<BR/><BR/>And that violent offenders (addictive problems or no) be sentenced to time in "jail" and/or "prison" (as appropriate)...<BR/>where they are mandated into treatment for "thier" addictions / other issues --- AND be made to produce violence prevention packets or something of the sort.<BR/><BR/>(A very brief summary of my ideas).<BR/><BR/>Trust me, I'm NOT big on forgiveness. I believe that people NEED to be held accountable for thier actions (and that the public at large NEEDS to be kept safe from violent offenders!)<BR/><BR/>What happens within the context of jails and prisons is what concerns me here, because it is my belief that traumatizing people does NO GOOD at all - for anyone.<BR/><BR/>Am I an idealist? Maybe. But why a chain gang? Why not have folks in jail and prison do something that will boost their self-esteem, benefit the community at large (like the prevention packet idea), and learn skills that "might" lower the recidivism rates?<BR/><BR/>Think about what it would feel like to be chained to other people...<BR/><BR/>Would that foster good feelings or hope in your heart? Or more resentment / anger at society?<BR/><BR/>No. We do not have to forgive ---<BR/>but it is my opinion that we need to find a better way of dealing with these situations. <BR/><BR/>Does that make sense?<BR/><BR/>BTW, Mike... I certainly DON'T think you are a "monster" on this issue... 'Tis just a different perspective...<BR/><BR/>As a matter of fact, you are "possibly" (have to keep that ego in check, lol...) my favorite Alderman! You do LOTS, including this great blog, and it is truly appreciated.<BR/><BR/>Happy New Year! <BR/><BR/>Peace,<BR/><BR/>N.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24135583.post-34286441263794839452008-12-31T11:01:00.000-05:002008-12-31T11:01:00.000-05:00Hey N.I agree with you.With the rising number of v...Hey N.<BR/><BR/>I agree with you.With the rising number of violent crime today we need a new approach. we should be more forgiving. lets look right here in kingston. what do you say about the man who raped a 13 year girl a couple of weeks ago? we should be more caring with him. hes a repeat offender and putting him in jail does no good. we should forgive him. same with the pedophiles and people who commit violence against women everyday. we should embrace them and forgive and forget. what say you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24135583.post-5998639726901522472008-12-30T22:19:00.000-05:002008-12-30T22:19:00.000-05:00Now that was neither nice or brave, Mr.Anonymous.A...Now that was neither nice or brave, Mr.Anonymous.<BR/><BR/>A drunk driver could run into me, but throwing the guy in a desert<BR/>tent won't solve his problem.<BR/>N'est pas?...smittyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24135583.post-57894450188458225062008-12-30T22:18:00.000-05:002008-12-30T22:18:00.000-05:00although I published that last comment, it serves ...although I published that last comment, it serves as an example of unwarented ill will toward another reader. Unlike other Blogs, I ask that you disagree with respect toward others. Smitty must know I published this comment for the opportunity to remind everyone about Blogger manners. <BR/>Even if I seem a monster on an issue, we all get along in the real world. So focus on the issues and not the physical harm.Mike Madsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14527557594630435730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24135583.post-79036377632999055412008-12-30T20:35:00.000-05:002008-12-30T20:35:00.000-05:00Hey Smitty:Why are you so down on the guy? What's...Hey Smitty:<BR/><BR/>Why are you so down on the guy? What's wrong with upholding the law? Youre probably one of the hippies still stuck in the 60s that's into booze and legalized drugs.<BR/><BR/>what do you propose, smitty? LAISEZ FAIRE. anything goes. drugs and booze for everyone! screw the law. let the gangs and drunks take over,<BR/><BR/>Here's to hoping that a drunk driver runs into you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24135583.post-82507673098740495192008-12-30T10:22:00.000-05:002008-12-30T10:22:00.000-05:00US Cities with Highest Crime Rates2008 Almanac1 Ne...US Cities with Highest Crime Rates<BR/>2008 Almanac<BR/>1 New York<BR/>2 Los Angeles**<BR/>3 Chicago<BR/>4 Houston**<BR/>5 Dallas**<BR/>6 Phoenix**<BR/>7 San Antonio**<BR/><BR/>** Five of seven in the southwest<BR/><BR/>Yes, Dukes and Dazzies crime may be even more of a hazard when you make Boss Hog a hero?...smittyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24135583.post-54490776502094834242008-12-30T10:10:00.000-05:002008-12-30T10:10:00.000-05:00Hi Mike, I'm surprised with you on this one...Cons...Hi Mike, <BR/><BR/>I'm surprised with you on this one...<BR/><BR/>Consider this:<BR/><BR/>How about if this guy was housing hundreds of dogs in swarmy tents under the hot Arizona sun - [without AC (but of course...)]<BR/><BR/>This including "housing" the dogs with a tendency (under the best of conditions...) to bite WITH the dogs that are simply in need of a safe home and some appropriate treatment services?<BR/><BR/>Does this not sound somewhat like a glorified concentration camp right here in the U.S.?<BR/><BR/>If the local animal shelter operated in such a way - would you approve of that?<BR/><BR/>Did you ever read Stephen King's book, "Thinner?"<BR/><BR/>Do you ever wonder where this punitive based system (how about utilizing a healing and incentive based proactive system instead?) is leading us...<BR/><BR/>Did you ever read Stanley Milgram's prison experiment materials? Is it a good idea to reframe monsters as heroes? Might that be an issue here? <BR/><BR/>I hope you and the other folks responding here look at this situation a little bit deeper...<BR/><BR/>Recall the fact that we had animal abuse laws before we had child abuse laws...<BR/><BR/>And remember, if you will, A. Hitler - who was also very popular amongst certain folks (who is this guy popular with, anyhow? Bush chronies and loyalists?) FOR A TIME...<BR/><BR/>If you corner and mistreat an animal, in a lot of cases, that animal will attack you...<BR/><BR/>If you slap a puppy or dog in the snout over and over again, that animal is apt to turn mean...<BR/><BR/>If we mistreat human beings we are dehumanizing (tapping into their base survival instincts) them...<BR/><BR/>So... if we mistreat human beings (which is being done in a multitude of ways...) how might THEY react?<BR/><BR/>A lot of folks don't return to this guy's "jail?" <BR/><BR/>How are the suicide rates in Phoenix? How many folks leave the state after their release? How many folks take to the road and go on to creat havoc elsewhere? <BR/><BR/>Do you know THOSE stats?<BR/><BR/>Shucks, maybe they all head to NY state and/or even get on the Ulster County wagon (this is not meant as any type of judgment) train?<BR/><BR/>BTW,<BR/><BR/>How does this "Boss Hog" setup compare to a Federal "white collar" BIG MONEY - "REALLY GOTHA' GOOD!" - bid?<BR/><BR/>It seems to me that a number of Professional "white collar" criminals end up (if having to serve time at all) in a cozy "cell" with all kinds of nifty amenities...<BR/><BR/>And a number of "these" folks go on to become multimillionaire lobbyists, authors ("Hallelujah by Jesus"!), etc.<BR/><BR/>'Tis just another perspective...<BR/><BR/>But I think something is SERIOUSLY WRONG WITH THIS PITURE...<BR/><BR/>Peace, Love, Humane Justice..<BR/><BR/>And...<BR/><BR/>Happy New Year!<BR/><BR/>N.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24135583.post-59378081431292494982008-12-30T02:37:00.000-05:002008-12-30T02:37:00.000-05:00Yes folks and Der Fuhrer had a 90% approval rating...Yes folks and Der Fuhrer had a 90% approval rating in late 1930 Germany.<BR/>If history teaches us anything, it is that it has a tendency to repeat itself. Watch what entertains you, it might just move into your neighborhood...smitty<BR/><BR/>PS I don't believe there are any stats showing crime is down in Phoenix!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24135583.post-39842433123301294722008-12-29T15:19:00.000-05:002008-12-29T15:19:00.000-05:00Hi Mike- another great TV show in the making- Not ...Hi Mike- another great TV show in the making- Not sure if he would be elected here in the Northeast, but in the deep south or southwest he is mainstream. You have to admit- colorful and charming character and beloved by his consituents. Also many who have spent time in his jail don't want to return- so maybe ??? you fill in the blanks<BR/>Happy healthy new year to you and yer family and you're esteemed colleagues on the Common Council.<BR/>Shelly zAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24135583.post-24073031181842888432008-12-28T11:54:00.000-05:002008-12-28T11:54:00.000-05:00Hey MikeGood Heads Up on this show -Loved this She...Hey Mike<BR/><BR/>Good Heads Up on this show -<BR/>Loved this Sheriff from afar for awhile, a friend in Glasco turned me onto him, We, in AMerica, need many, many more like him, Liberal sensitivities be damned, LAW & ORDER & National Security should be our Priorities.<BR/><BR/>Yes,, i WILL be watching,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24135583.post-89078644242947713142008-12-28T02:11:00.000-05:002008-12-28T02:11:00.000-05:00Funny how from a distance, a retro/tyrant like thi...Funny how from a distance, a retro/tyrant like this can actually look like an answer until you speak with some of the people, and in my case a 23 year old woman who had to deal with this purple neck ignoramous and his pimative methods...smittyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24135583.post-29375604447822973392008-12-27T20:40:00.000-05:002008-12-27T20:40:00.000-05:00That is cool, I have been following this guy for y...That is cool, I have been following this guy for years. Last year when the Super Bowl was in his town he had his DWI work crew cleaning up the roads leading to the stadium with a huge sign that read, This could be you, Don't Drink and Drive at the Super Bowl.<BR/><BR/>I will be watching!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08007858530301515738noreply@blogger.com